Inbound links and Site Rank - does Google agree with ME? :-0

Am I reading this wrong, or did Google just say what I’ve been thinking all along?

from Google's Webmaster Help Center
"Your site's ranking in Google search results is partly based on
analysis of those sites that link to you. The quantity, quality, and
relevance of links count towards your rating. The sites that link to
you can provide context about the subject matter of your site, and can
indicate its quality and popularity."
- and -
"It is not only the number of links you have pointing to your site that
matters, but also the quality and relevance of those links "

So - if a flock of porn and viagra sites link to your perfectly nice, normal, non-pornographic, non-viagra site - those links CAN (and do as far as I can tell) have an affect on your sites search ranking. Right?

Right! So now what do we do to stop those uninvited and negatively impacting inbound links from happening in the first place? Obviously the standard response of ‘create original content’ does not apply here.

And what about if those links are from your own AdWords ad - which Google is displaying on spammy sites. Is Google taking this into consideration at all?

It would not be un-reasonable to ASSUME they do - but we all know what that can do. And I DO still see inbound AdWords ads links from some really just horrible spammy sites, link farms, directories, etc., on a daily basis. I do use the ‘block’ function to try and avoid this, but someone’s gonna have to prove to me that this works - so far I cannot tell that it has any effect. I still see the same ‘players’ appearing in the stats.

Google? Anyone?

Website Search Ranking isn’t ‘ALL THAT’.

Controversial title ain’t it ;)
I keep seeing this same general question asked - ‘Can ‘bad neighborhood’ inbound links hurt a websites search ranking?’, and I keep seeing the same general answer - ‘inbound links to a website cannot hurt said websites search ranking’. While I agree in theory, I’m not 100% convinced of it in practice. BUT - I am convinced that there’s a more important long-term issue involved when considering the potential for harm from bad inbound links - ‘Perceived Reputation’.

What’s ‘Perceived Reputation’? Well, it’s kind of like the old ‘Judging a Book by it’s Cover’ thing that we’re admonished NOT to do but sometimes do anyway.

For example - a searcher does a search on Google or Yahoo, or MSN or wherever for a specific name or url - and the first 2 or 3 listings feature old or invalid information - or worse still - bad press. Does this have an effect on the searchers ‘impressions’ of the name or url they were looking for? I could be wrong, but to me it’s a no-brainer - Of Course it does - it’s human nature to make snap judgements - how can it NOT.

Granted, because of my profession - when I personally encounter old or invalid data in my searches - I tend to blame the search engine first, then the site manager. And if I encounter bad press - I will at least look into first to see if it’s at all relevant. I wonder if that holds true for the average searcher.

Do most searchers consider or understand the whens, hows,whats and/or whys of their search results, or do they simply accept the returned results as accurate? I don’t want to ‘dumb-down’ the general search population, but I tend to lean towards the latter - which to me indicates that bad inbound links CAN hurt the searched for name/url - IF the returned results are detrimental, invalid, irrelevant, or out-dated.

But what to do? Often when something like this is encountered - there are other problems with the searched for site that prevent it from positioning well. The first step is to go over the site with a fine toothed comb - review all the guidelines offered by the search engines, and make sure your site is up to snuff. When that is done - listing positions will improve.

But mistakes DO happen, search engine algorithms are imperfect and subject to change without notice, and spammy linking and advertising tactics are apparently a fact of life these days - have you SEEN some of the stuff out of Adsense/Adwords these days!

If the bad results are due to an error in the Search Engines reporting - a site manager can only ask, beg, cajole and plead with said engine (sometimes followed by ranting, raving, threatening and a lawsuit) to please, please, please fix it - good luck with that.

And of course a website really has no control over who links to it, nor HOW they link to it. The site manager can make suggestions on how the site should be linked to, and maybe even send a nicely worded ‘please don’t link to us’ message to identifiable bad link sources - but good luck with that too.

There is also that spam report tool in Google Webmaster tools - does that work? Maybe. I’ve heard a lot of bad press, but my personal experience with it has been ok, I think. I DO use it when needed, and sometimes I DO see a change in the serps afterwards, but was it because of spam reports - only ‘the Google’ knows for sure…

But anyway…that’s my .02 - I think Reputation trumps Ranking any day.

I Always Wondered Who Said This…

My Dad used to say this a lot, but I’ve never heard it attributed to anyone - until today.

I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
- Robert McCloskey

Magazines…?

Well, I doubt that I’m one of the first 5 to see VanessaFoxNude today (sorry - couldn’t help it), but anyway… Vanessa responds to Li Evans query about what magazines she reads.

You remember magazines — those things that are sorta like a cross between a newspaper and a book. Wow, how long has that been?

But to be honest - I do GET a couple of magazines. Mind you, I’ve never SUBSCRIBED to them, but I get ‘em anyway :)
PING! Zine - I think we advertised in this one at some point back in my hosting company days.
Website Magazine
- this is one of those ‘free trade magazines’ that originally arrived addressed to an unknown name, at my street address - but now it comes addressed to me.

I used to get PCWorld, PC Magazine, etc. - but not anymore.

Now, like Vanessa, I get my information online. But no Blackberry. ;)

Google and Stuff

just thinking out loud…short, sweet, maybe I’ll add more

Google Personalized Search

I’ve seen discussion about Googles Personalized Search - and there is some concern over how this will affect Search Engine Marketing and Optimization.

Me - I am interested in watching this play out of course, but I’m not concerned. If Design, SEM, and SEO is done for your VIEWERS benefit - not for the the Search Engines - all will be well.

Webmaster Tools Out of Beta

Vanessa Fox announces that Google Webmaster Tools is officially out of beta! WhooHoo! I for one am truly delighted - I’m a HUGE fan and user of Sitemaps. :)
Webmaster Tools is the area where webmasters/site owners/website managers/etc. can submit RSS Sitemaps and Feeds, get stats, etc. A VERY useful tool - and you KNOW how much I love RSS Sitemaps.

I just finished mapping a site in fact - http://soapdom.com. This one had over 300k urls in my deep crawl. Of course not all those urls are included in the sitemaps. The main sitemap has a bit over 23k.